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Re: [lojban-beginners] What actually are the rules of word formation?



On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:46 AM, mezohe <wow.jvs@gmail.com> wrote:
de'i li 2015-04-20 ti'u li 01:52 la .xorxes. di'e cusku:

This rule hasn't been implemented yet. Currently it's just that a glide
can't follow a diphthong.

 It is in the experimental grammar though, and seems to be the only difference in morphology between official and experimental.

- diphthong = (a i / a u / e i / o i) !nucleus !glide
+ diphthong = (a u !u / (a i / e i / o i) !i) !nucleus

Was there any opposition to having this in the official grammar, other than opposition to glides in general not needing a glottal stop? The
change doesn't affect any existing valid parses (or does it?)

It's just a slightly more complicated rule. OK, I'll change it to  

 diphthong = (a i !i / a u !u / e i !i / o i !i) !nucleus

just because I don't like rules with indented brackets.


de'i li 2015-04-19 ti'u li 22:19 la mezohe di'e cusku:
An initial rafsi is any one of these:
 [...]
- a zihevla that ends in a vowel syllable with its final vowel replaced
   with y, unless the result breaks up into a string of any other rafsi
     e.g. ka,'or,ty  a,sny

Firstly the final syllable can only have a vowel, not a diphthong, and secondly, in the current grammar, it can't start with a glide, only a consonant. (Is there a reason for that second restriction?)

I don't remember, the grammar of glides has been unstable, so maybe there was a reason at some point. I think "iy" and "uy" used to be "reserved for future use". I'll change it to:

stressed-fuhivla-rafsi <- fuhivla-head stressed-syllable !h onset y 

fuhivla-rafsi <- &unstressed-syllable fuhivla-head !h onset y h?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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