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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban attempt: please correct
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:01:14 selpa'i wrote:
> I don't think {simbi'o} means what you want. {simbi'o} means "x1
> (plural) become mutual in property x2".
What's the difference between {simbi'o} and {bixsi'u}?
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 04:12:16 Timothy Lawrence wrote:
> Where is the best place to learn about "soi", "vo'a" and "ka"? The jbovlaste
> definitions were unhelpful (they each seem more like a reminder than a full
> instruction on how to use the word) and the CLL is opaque.
{soi} is followed by two sumti and indicates that the sentence remains true
when they are exchanged. They don't have to be {vo'a} and {vo'e}, e.g.:
la .ludvig. nupre sebau la .karl. soi la .karl. la .ludvig.
Louis swore in Charles's language and vice versa.
(Louis the German swore in the earliest Old French; Charles swore in Old High
German.) {vo'e} can't be used because {la .karl.} is in a tagged, not
numbered, place. This doesn't work, though, if you want to exchange selbri.
I made up another example to illustrate {vo'a} with {ra'o}:
la .djan. klama lo zdani be vo'a pu le nu la .meris. no'a
John went to his house before Mary did. (Mary went to John's house.)
la .djan. klama lo zdani be vo'a pu le nu la .meris. no'a ra'o
John went home before Mary did. (Mary went to her own house.)
Pierre
--
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci
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