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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"

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From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:54:53 -0600
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I don't think syllabic "r" should have an "e" either. I just think his "r" does.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

No. Your "er" and your "eir" are both my "eir". I can hear a difference, but I wouldn't think either of them were "er". Your "er" is not my "er", you "r" is.

Sounds malgli to me. If I heard syllabic "r" I would not think that there was supposed to be an "e" in there. Does my "er" not sounds like it has the "e" sound in it? Because I've worked quite hard at making my mouth be able to do that. It feels very unnatural to my lazy english tongue to put "e" and "r" back to back like that. It keeps trying to be lazy and turn it into just "runner"

Sorry, just going to have to agree to disagree on this one then because I'm never going to speak lojban with those sounds. I'm too big a fan of audiovisual isomorphism to be dropping vowels here and there.

If your way of pronouncing things is the "official" way then please add the "er"/"r" lack of distinction here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Breakdowns+of+audiovisual+isomorphism

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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban "r"
  - From: Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
- Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban "r"
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- [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"
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- Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban "r"
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