Ok, but at the same time, {ei} is described as like the "ay" in "pay" which is definitely NOT how I pronounce {lerfu}. Maybe "air" is a bad example. I say {lerfu} such that the {er} part rymes with "pear" and NOT "payer"
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:The Lojban sound-cluster that sounds like the English "air" is {eir}, not {er}. .ebu is pronounced as the "e" in "better", ""wet", "pest", etc. The pronunciation example the CLL uses is "let", "What is Lojban?" lists the pronunciation in IPA as "e [E] ([e]): a front mid vowel", "Lojban for Beginners" uses the example "get", and the English pronunciation guide uses the examples "bet, lens".
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Is it? I thought the {er} in {lerfu} is supposed to be pronounced like english "air" (but with the r being trilled or tapped or whatever). I think if I heard someone in lojban say {lrfu} as though it rymed with "smurf-u" I would laugh my zargu off. It's just so english-y sounding.
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
My point is that the "er" in "better" is pronounced comparably to the "er" in "lerfu".--On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
I pronounce it as {betr} or if I'm enunciating as {betyr}On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you pronounce the English word better as "betteir"?On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Viral Lamb <jms1992@comcast.net> wrote:
While trying to get back into learning lojban, I came across something
I thought was rather important. When saying the word "lerfu" (which
means letter I think) I noticed that it sounds like I'm saying
"leirfu" (even though that isn't a word xD ).
I pronounce the letter "r" in lojban the same way I would in english,
and I found that's the root of the problem. When pronouncing the "e"
and "r" together, I can't help but say it like "leirfu". Using a
"trilled r" such as in spanish or esperanto, the "e" sound doesn't
turn into a "ei" sound.
Is there any other way to pronounce the "r" in lojban, cuz I think I
can trill my "r"s most of the time, but I'm certainly not perfect.
Trying to say "hamstron" the way the guy in this video says it (1:15)
is certainly a challenge, yet good for practice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INCr1bV8kGk
Is this a big problem, or am I making too big a fuss?
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