Re: [lojban-beginners] Finally?

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

How about this?
{baze'u lonu sisku ku mi co'a se jibri}

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm beginning to think that there are fundamentally two separate claims.

1) mi co'a se jibri
2) mi puze'u sisku lo za'i mi se jibri

Either these two need to be seperate bridi or you need to restate one of them in terms of the other like gejyspa did.
mi puze'umo'u sisku lo jibri

On Feb 9, 2011 5:52 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, that's why I chose the malgli form of {cpacu} to show initiation of
>>> the job.
>>>
>>> I'd be amazed if there weren't some quick easy way to express "finally"
>>> given the absurd number of tenses, contours, intervals, etc... that we have
>>> at our disposal.
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>> and yet, I can't think of what it would be... It's something like, {mi se
>>> jibri}, but I {co'a se jibri} and {pu ze'u na se jibri}.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to say something like "mi pu citka .iku'i mi ca na citka"
>>> without having to break it out into a new bridi? Would "mi pu canai citka"
>>> do what I want it to here? If so, you could say {mi co'a puze'unai se
>>> jibri} "I [start] & [past-long-time do not] have job". Although I get the
>>> feeling like I've done something very wrong here.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes. Say "mi mo'u citka" :-) And no, you can't -nai ZEhA. Yes, you
>> can certainly say "mi mo'u na se jibri" or "mi ba'o na se jibri", but I went
>> with a UI for "finally" because to me, in that sentence, it's really nothing
>> more than an intensifier, something that UI do well.
>> --gejyspa
>>
>
> I was specifically meaning "finally" as in the "after a long time, typically
> involving difficulty or delay" use, not in the exasperated or aggravating
> expressive use.
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Michael Turniansky
> <mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, that's more "I am still holding onto the job" (And "cpacu lo
>>>> jibri" is malglico, anyhow. Use seljibri).
>>>> Personally, I'd use a UI like u'a or uo. The big problem is that the
>>>> English "finally" in that sentence really means "ba lo nu zu co'e", which is
>>>> just too much of a mouthful. Recasting as "lo pu'u mi sisku tu'a lo jibri
>>>> cu mulno" might be better.
>>>> --gejyspa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd probably use {za'o}. {mi za'o cpacu lo jibri}
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How to translate finally, as in "I finally got the job!"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi
>>>>>> patfu do zo'o
>>>>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do
> zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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