Re: [lojban-beginners] lujvo making help request

["A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com>]

The jovlaste defintion, like English, leaves many possible 
interpretations of "agnostic".

ceirsenpi: 
{c1 senpi tu'a lo du'u lo cevni be c2 c3 be'o zasti z2 z3}
where {tu'a} allows for:
- doubt about the existance of God
- doubt about the existance of the proof that God exists
- doubt about the possibility of proving that God exists
-etc
You are right in stating, though, that none of the definitions 
of "agnostic" implies "belief" rather than "doubt", so their is 
certainly room for a new lujvo.
totus
 

>
>From: Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>
>To: Lojban Beginners <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 4:24:16 PM
>Subject: [lojban-beginners] lujvo making help request
>
>I'm unsatisfied with the current translation of "agnostic" as "god-doubter"
>
>While that works in common usage, a more precise definition (at least as it is 
>used in certain circles in which I discuss) would be "one who believes in the 
>unknowability of the existence of a god"
>
>so I tried to come up with a lujvo:
>
>krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti fa lo cevni -> {ko'a} believes 
>that it is impossible to know that god exists. (djuno asks for a {du'u}, 
>although {jei} may be more appropriate)
>fi lo cevni cu krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a} 
>believes about god that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
>cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a} god type-of 
>believes that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
>cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo zasti djuno -> {ko'a} god type-of believes that 
>it is impossible to exist type-of know
>cevni krici lo du'u zasti djuno tolcu'i -> {ko'a} god type-of believes that 
>(exist type-of know) type-of impossible
>
>But I get stuck there.  Am I going about this the right way?
>
>Is the next progression
>
>zasti djuno tolcu'i cevni bo krici = zasti djuno tolcu'i ke cevni krici
>
>?
>
>I'd appreciate any advice.
>
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