Re: [lojban-beginners] elidable terminator discussion in CLL?

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 04 February 2011 14:13:18 Lindar wrote:
> I don't have an exhaustive list of the English words, so I can't really
> say, but I'll rattle off a few.
>
> gismu - ?? (it's a word-form)
> cmavo - ??

function word

> selma'o - ??
> bridi - ??

clause

> selbri - predicate
> terbri - argument
> cnima'o - 'attitudinal'

?? - discursive

> fa'orma'o - 'terminator'
> gadri - article?
> sumtcita - modal?

The proper English translation of "sumtcita" is "adposition", but it is 
customary in English to call them "prepositions" or "postpositions", 
whichever occur in the language. Since all Lojban adpositions are 
prepositions, we should call them that.

"Modal" is Lojbanic jargon for "preposition derived from a predicate", as 
distinct from tense markers used as prepositions. In linguistic terminology 
it refers to words like "ka'e".

> temtcita - specifically time-related (nonce guess)

I call them "tense markers". Linguists talk of TAM (tense, aspect, mood). 
Lojban has spatial tenses as well. I don't know whether they should be 
considered as a fourth category or lumped with the time tenses.

Even mood markers can be used as prepositions. What does "mi zbasu ka'e le 
curnu" mean?

> tanru - ??

compound phrase?

> lujvo - ??

compound word, but some lujvo formed with cmavo aren't compounds in the 
linguistic sense, but derivations.

> rafsi - ??

bound form

> selrafsi - ??
> zi'evla - ??
> fu'ivla - 'borrow-word'
> malgli - =D

Anglicism

> ra'abri - 'clause' (like {noi})

What's that? If you mean "subordinate clause", I'd say "vipybri", but that's 
what I'd call "nu broda". "noi broda" is a skibri.

> terjonma'o - 'connective' ({.e} or {gi'e})

conjunction

Also we should have Lojban words for natlang grammatical terms. As some 
features of natlangs are lacking in Lojban, some of these will be fu'ivla.

cmene - proper noun
cmevla - intrinsic proper noun ("John", as distinct from "Bear")
fauvla - verb
daivla - noun
skivla - adjective
adverbio - adverb
nalcme daivla - common noun
infinitivo - infinitive
participio - participle
tersu'i - case
vlacne - inflect (said of a word)
faurvlacne - conjugate
dairvlacne ja skivlacne - decline
tairmupli - form of a word
sumbasti, sumyma'o - pronoun

Pierre
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