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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:11 AM, ranoritc <ranorith@gmail.com> wrote:
It does. Unfortunately, while "ti" might translate as "this thing",
the converse isn't always true. From the CLL: "The cmavo ``ti'',
``ta'', and ``tu'' provide only the pointing function of ``this'' and
``that''; they are not used to refer to things that cannot be pointed
at."

It would be like saying in English "this object composed on my
Android".

Ah, but I /can/ point to to it. All I have to do is log in to my email and open up the message.

Would you say that a piece of paper is qualifies as something that can be referenced as {ti}, but the letter written on it isn't?
 
go'i .i uinaiku'i zo ti fanza zoi gy this thing gy na roroi soi .i
la'e zoi gy CLL gy cusku zoi gy The cmavo ``ti'', ``ta'', and ``tu''
provide only the pointing function of ``this'' and ``that''; they are
not used to refer to things that cannot be pointed at. gy .i la'e de'u
simsa lonu cusku bau glibau zoi gy this object composed on my Android
gy

PS note: Does "na soi" or even riskier "na roroi soi" work?

On Mar 23, 9:52 am, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think a message qualifies as a thing.
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Lindar <lindartheb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > "ti" refers to a place or thing. I think "di'u" is much more appropriate.
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> > {ti} is demonstrative for things in physical space. We have {di'u} for
> > -this very reason-. It's like insisting on calling a gorilla a "monkey".
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