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Re: [lojban-beginners] question about soi and go'i



Oh.  So {vo'a} refers to the outermost bridi, not the last bridi? 

So then I guess {vo'a} should not be used for something like:
A: mi broda
B: .i vo'a ji'a brode

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Or you can just say {.i xu ji'a ny viska do}.  Also, while I love the construct, I haven't seen a lot of vo'a and friends around.  I hope to see them more though, they seem awfully useful.

Although, I'm not 100% sure what the difference is between {vo'a} and {lo go'i}.


  Although I don't really use "soi", "vo'a" appears 10 times in Esther.  It's very useful in sub-bridi, since it refers to the x1 of the main (outermost) bridi.  "lo go'i" on the other hand refers to the x1 of the previous bridi.  ("lo no'a" would be closer to vo'a, but that only pops up one level.)
      --gejyspa

 

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:05 PM, zegma <hardquannone@hotmail.fr> wrote:
coi rodo
I am a beginner lojbanist, i've read the seventh chapter of Lojban
Reference Grammar about pro-bridi and pro-sumti and there is something
I don't understand about "soi" ;
if I want to question the reciprocity of the previous utterance of my
interlocutor, can I use "soi"?
If I use soi this way, I have to use go'i to pick up the previous
bridi, then a new question arise ; should I use pro-sumti like "ri"
with soi, or does reflexive pro-sumti of the vo'a serie apply?

For exemple, if my interlocutor said "mi viska le nanmu"
if I want to ask "is it reciprocal?"
should I say something like "xu go'i ra'o soi vo'a vo'e" ?

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