Re: [lojban-beginners] newbie question on bridi construction

[David Imel <david.a.imel@gmail.com>]

All,

I've been really enjoying studying your responses -- thanks to all of you:  to Stela for the nice { fi'i }, to Pierre and Jonathan for pointing me to the current online CLL -- very helpful! -- and to those and Jorge for the sipna(x1) discussion.

I admit to still being a bit confused, though reading through all your answers and looking up words I don't know is good practice! 

Specifically,

a) Stela wrote that you can add sumti beyond the specified number for a gismu, but in the following conversation it seemed to be the case that you always needed a cmavo such as { fi'o }.  Do you?  Or is that "elidable"?

b) Jonathan and Jorge (sorry for using English, eventually I'll be able to do this in Lojban I hope!) discussed the relative merits of { fi'o se nenri } and { ne'i }.  For the life of me, I cannot find { ne'i } defined anywhere.  The closest thing I could find was here:  http://dag.github.com/cll/9/17/ where the CV'V cmavo seem to be contractions of gismu.  Is this one of those for { nenri }?  And if so, does the argument of { ne'i } refer to the x1 or x2?  Jonathan wrote "{ ne'i } = { fi'o se nenri }" -- is that "definitional" or just a paraphrase?

Thanks again -- I'm really enjoying both the language and this list.

--David.  { la deivyd. }

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