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Re: [lojban-beginners] cusku/NU



ditto.  I struggle with understanding place structures and their effects on abstractors as well.

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
(As this is not a point by point response, I'll respond at the top; sorry)

I think my problem is understanding multiple places in abstractors.


On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org> wrote:
Please place your replies below selective quotations rather than above the entire message; it makes it easier for messages to keep the structure of the discussion clear. [This is my opinion and not a list policy.]


On Oct 1, 2010, at 15:03, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:

Because I thought {se du'u} was the wrong thing...

Let me work through this:
du'u : x1 is a predicate expressed by sentence x2
se du'u : x1 is a sentence expressing predicate x2

Yes, except:

 1. bridi/statement/sentence, not predicate/selbri. "plana" is a
    selbri (predicate); "do plana" is a bridi (sentence).

 2. {du'u} relates three things, not two: x1, x2, and the syntactic
    content of the {du'u} itself.

Or, in lojbanic tautologies:

 lo du'u <anything> kei bridi
 (the x1 of du'u is a bridi)

 lo du'u mi broda do kei bridi la'e zo broda mi ce'o do
 ("mi broda do" is a bridi with selbri "broda" and sumti "mi", "do")

 da du'u <anything> kei de .ijanai da smuni de
 (the x2 of a du'u means the x1 of it)


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