Re: [lojban-beginners] newbie question on bridi construction

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have no idea about the sentence in Alice-- it's a very interesting
> book BTW full of all sorts of experimental language,

The sentence in question was not from Alice, but I'm curious, what
sorts of experimental language do you find in it? I think there isn't
a single experimental cmavo in the xorlo version. There were a couple
of "mu'ei" in the old version which I removed, but that's about it for
cmavo. Then there's the playful fu'ivla in "cizra je ci'izra", but
that's hardly experimental. There are two unofficial gismu, "gumri"
and "nuzlo". I might have used "nai" in some place not allowed by the
official grammar, but probably very few people would even notice that.
What are you thinking of as experimental language, I'm really curious.

> so it's a little
> odd that it's so popular with beginners, but don't let that discourage
> you because it is an important work and a good read, but do take the
> things you find there with a small grain of salt!--

What things? Examples, please!

But the advice is good in general, you should take everything you read
in Lojban with a grain of salt, because we are all learning, so nobody
gets everything right all the time.

> but YES it is
> possible to add extra sumti to a bridi, beyond the defined places of
> the brivla (whether it's a gismu, lujvo, fu'ivla, or whatever).  Extra
> sumti are treated as if they were marked with "do'e", that is they
> have an unspecified relationship to the bridi.

Right.

In this case, however, it was most likely just a mistake. It's odd
that nobody seems to have noticed it until now. At least it hasn't
been recorded in:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=CLL,+aka+Reference+Grammar,+Errata

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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