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Re: [lojban-beginners] Complicated parallelism question



haha, and it's also a good lesson:

Listen up nintadni because I STILL make this mistake regularly.  se te ve xe are the "swapping" cmavo.  The rafsi of these cmavo are sel ter vel xel respectively.  meanwhile tel is the rafsi for stela.  Do not think that if you say {teldunda} you are saying {te dunda}, you are in fact saying {stela zei dunda}.

ta'onai yeah, right on selkik.  I recently made use of cei in a way that I really kind of NEEDED it.  Upon thinking about it I wondered "if to express this in lojban I required cei to assign like 3 different bridi to shortcut variables... how the hell would I have said this in english?!"  And sure enough, it was not an easy thing at all to say in english.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> haha, then the shell game could get REALLY confusing: da se te'ai ve'ai ve
> ve'ai xe se'ai teldunda de di

Assuming that se'ai flips x2 with x2, doing nothing:

se'ai:
 da de di zo'e zo'e
xe:
 zo'e de di zo'e da
ve'ai:
 zo'e zo'e di de da
ve:
 de zo'e di zo'e da
ve'ai:
 de zo'e di zo'e da
te'ai:
 de di zo'e zo'e da
se:
 di de zo'e zo'e da

Which following jvajvo means:
 di gives lock de (which seals something with some locking
characteristics) to recipient da

Makes sense to me!  I'd like to see some posts like that on la
lujyjbo!  Probably off-topic here, though, sorry nintadni. ;)  (At
least it's not more misplaced jbodau!)

mi'e .telselkik. mu'o

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