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[lojban-beginners] Complicated parallelism question



A long time ago, I read that loglan exists.
{.i mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo du'u la loglan zasti}

And a medium time after that, that lojban does.
{.i ba za bo la lojban co'e}

Is there a way to use something more precise than {co'e} in the second phrase without sacrificing much conciseness?
I was considering {.i ba za bo go'i lo du'u la lojban zasti}, but {pamai} I'm not sure if the {du'u} abstraction is referred to rather than the outer bridi and {remai} I still have to repeat {zasti}. {cimai} it's not very concise.

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          Alex R

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