Re: [lojban-beginners] cfika

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

casti ki'a .i .e'o zo zasti .e lo'u puku zasti lo nanbakni poi [ke'a] se cmene zo djeris le'u
("Casti"? What? I suggest "zasti" and "puku zasti lo nanbakni poi [ke'a] se cmene zo djeris") 
(The [] means the word inside is not needed but is implied; I prefer explicit {ke'a} myself, but I'm pretty sure I'm atypical in that regard.)

nanbakni ki'a .i ta'i ma lo bakni cu snanu
("Nanbakni"? What? How is the cow to the south?)

..."I'm apart from all the other cows." The "other" is tricky, because he is not apart from all of the cows, being one himself. My suggestion is imprecise, and it is to simply use {lei bakni}--one or more masses of cows that I have in mind, in this case the mass of all the other ones on the farm.

The cow's "badri" sentence is ungrammatical; li'e expects a sumti after it to say what it is preceded by. To get that, you would say {mi badri lo nu go'i} or something similar; "I am sad about the event of the previous sentence", more or less.

I am not sure if {li'u} is elidable here; I am also not sure how elision of {.i} in actual texts (such as in the cow's sentence) works. 

Again, {il'e} is not what you want in Shamjan's sentence. {lo nu go'i} might work. 



I'll stop there for now...

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:20 PM, xaujbes cindustus <xaujbes.cindustus@gmail.com> wrote:

.i puku casti nanbakni co cmene la djeris goi ko'a .i la djeris xabju le cange .i ko'a cusku lu uinai oi mi sepli le ro bakni li'u .i la djeris cusku lu mi badri ti li'e .i la camdjan goi ko'e cusku lu ko gleki li'e .i go'e cusku lu do ponse bi lo pendo li'e .i la djeris cusku lu le mi pendo ma li'e .i la camdjan cusku lu le ci jipci pendo do .ije le xarju pendo do .ije le ci lanme pendo do .ije mi pendo do li'e .i ko'e cusku lu ji'a mi ba terve'u ninbakni la redjed .ije le ninbakni cmene la rosas li'e .i la djeris gleki .i ko'a cusku lu ki'e le mi pendo la camdjan li'e .i ko'a cusku lu u'ecai uicai mi prami le mi pendo .ije mi ba prami la rosas li'e .i ui la djeris e le ko'a pendo cu gleki .ije ko'a ce le ro pendo cu kelci

 

Anyone want to point out errors? ki'e co'o mi'e xaujbes

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