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Re: [lojban-beginners] oh my god, please make it stop, it hurts so much! (was: Re: Questions on the sounds chosen for Lojban)



mi na se cnixai

Even apart from lojban I'd like to learn the IPA for the purpose of being able to talk about accents via text (in emails and whatnot).

If I learnt german I would use  both german and loljban letters/words to describe how I pronounce some things in english.  The more different ways one can describe a thing, the less chance there is of confusion (because the more distinct ways you describe a thing, the narrower the possible scope of that thing becomes).

love is like: <insert 5 million lines of poetry on the subject of love>.  With each line the scope of the analogy becomes narrower.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Timo Paulssen <timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de> wrote:
On 01/22/2011 07:53 PM, Luke Bergen wrote:
> Why exactly is this bad, timos?  The cll does it because how else can we
> explain to nintadni that "o" says english "bold" not "so"?
>

That is right, but I've been on the IRC for ages and every time a newbie
comes in, we have to re-explain to them how to pronounce stuff, because
in their accent o sounds like a, e sounds like i, a sounds like ö, i
sounds like y and whatnot. I do realize, that teaching this to people
with IPA would be perfect, but not possible and I do have to admit, that
I cannot suggest a better way, but I am completely certain, that
discussing pronunciation like that will lead us nowhere at all.

My mail was also pretty much a knee-jerk thing, so I apologize to
anybody who might feel offended.

mu'o mi'e timos

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