Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: ci lo gerku vs lo ci gerku

[tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>]

On 9 May 2011 20:44, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>   I don't believe "lo no gerku cu blabi" to be self contradictory/nonsense.
>   Consider a room containing three white dogs -- lo ci gerku cu blabi
>   I take one away -- lo re gerku cu blabi
>   I take another away -- lo pa gerku cu blabi
>   I take the last one away -- lo no gerku cu blabi
>   Of course, when I take the last one away, I can equally truthfully say "lo
> no gerku cu xekri".

In your example, "na xekri" may be true for "lo ci gerku poi blabi";
otherwise, we can't determine whether or not "na xekri" holds at all
in the given context. You can truthfully say
a) some particular things are not xekri, or
b) nothing of some particular things are xekri.
That is, if any statement with "xekri" is to have any discernible
truth value in the particular domain of discourse of your example, it
must make reference to "lo ci gerku poi blabi" (or alternatively "lo
gerku poi blabi gi'e ci mei"); "... cu (ja'a) xekri" can be said to be
true only if the x1 refers to that particular given entity AND is
quantified with "no":

no lo gerku cu xekri

Not:

lo no gerku cu xekri


mu'o

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