On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:53:22AM +0800, tk1@despammed.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> > The word formation rules are about the only *syntactic* rules Lojban
> > has.
> > http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter4.html
>
> Thanks.
>
> I am currently flipping through the reference grammar, and I just got
> another question: in Chapter 6 this example is given:
>
> 13.3) ro da poi prenu cu prami pa de poi finpe
> All somethings-1 which-are persons love one something-2
> which-is a-fish.
> All persons love a fish (each his/her own).
>
> (This is not the same as "All persons love a certain fish"; the
> difference between the two is one of quantifier order.)
>
> If I change the above Lojban sentence to {pa de poi finpe cu se prami ro da
> poi prenu}, will the new sentence take on the first or second meaning? In
> other words, can the use of the word {se} potentially _change_ the meaning
> of a sentence, in addition to switching sumti order?
It takes the "There is a certain fish that all persons love" meaning.
The change in meaning is because you changed the order of the terms.
You don't need se to do that. For example {fe pa finpe cu prami
fa ro prenu}.
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