[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[lojban-beginners] Re: [lojban] mabla notci



Thanks! I was getting a major brain cramp.

Thanks again.

Regards,
  JJ

On Tuesday, Sep 28, 2004, at 12:19 US/Eastern, Adam D. Lopresto wrote:

ki'u ma lei mabla te vecnu cu ba'e ca vi te notci

The reason you're having trouble reading it is that you're mistaking the main selbri. The main selbri is not {vecnu}, it appears after {cu}, and in this
case it is {te notci}.  Elaborating a bit

ki'u ma	             With what explanation/justification (why)
lei mabla te vecnu the butt-hole buyers (should be {le mabla vecnu}, the
                     butt-hole sellers)  This is the first sumti
cu                   about to come to the real brivla
ba'e ca              *NOW*
vi                   here (used metaphorically, this mailing list)
te notci	         are the senders of message(s)

So it amounts to "Why are the butt-hole [buyers, meant sellers] sending
messages here *now*?"

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, John Johnson wrote:

I'm a beginner and having a hard time making sense of this.

ki'u ma	lei mabla		te vecnu		cu ba'e ca vi	      te notci
why		derogatory	(3rd) buyer	/now/		here (3rd) message author

This seems to translate to:
why sold to butt-holes now a message authored by here

The reference materials say that TE swaps the first and third places, so:

vecnu
x1 sells x2 to x3 for amount x4

te vecnu
x3 is sold x2 by x1 for amount x4

from above:
lei mabla is sold cu ba'e ca by vi for amount te notci
butt-holes are sold now by here for amount the message author

Can someone help me parse this, please?

Thanks,
 JJ



On Tuesday, Sep 28, 2004, at 08:13 US/Eastern, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 09:34:31AM +1200, mikevdg@gulik.co.nz wrote:
Quoting doug <kyrzar@hotmail.com>:
ki'u ma lei mabla te vecnu cu ba'eca vi te notci
(because of reason) (what) (the mass described) (****ing!!) (3rd-person-sell)
(very-during) (here) (3rd-person message).
"Why are the sellers *now* here writing?"
Using "lei" to gloss English plurals is somewhat bad usage, but
unfortunately common.
Is he complaining about the spam?
It seems likely.
-Robin
--
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/
Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"




--
Adam Lopresto
http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/

Never be afraid to tell the world who you are.

--Anonymous