[lojban-beginners] Re: cmavo can be selbri?

["Adam D. Lopresto" <adam@pubcrawler.org>]

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Matt Arnold wrote:

> I think you're using "la" incorrectly. It makes proper names, like
> "the Empire State Building" or "Mario." What you want is "zo," which
> indicates a one-word quote. So, "zo xu." However, "zo cmavo" in place
> of "la cmavo" wouldn't work either. I'm not sure how to say that xu is
> "part of the set, cmavo." Robin?
> -Matt

Well, if you really wanted to say "xu is a member of the set of cmavo" that
would be {zo xu cmima lo'i cmavo}, but I think what you really want to say is
"xu is a cmavo" which is very simply {zo xu cmavo}.

> lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote:
> > Whee, don't know if anyone listens to this list, but definitely have a
> > few questions.  Here goes the first one...
> >
> > I know that gismu can be selbri... seen enough examples of that.  But
> > the definition for 'du' calls it both cmavo and selbri.  Is this a
> > valid question in lojban:
> >
> > xu la xu cu du la cmavo
> >
> > If that is true, then can 'xu' itself be used as a selbri?  Or is it
> > just that some cmavo cannot be used as selbri, since they don't define
> > a predicate structure?  Or perhaps in the 'xu' example, it would be
> > the selbri for establishing a question regarding the sumti?
> >
> > I understand that cmavo itself is a cmavo-establishment selbri, so it
> > would be better to ask instead
> >
> > xu zo'e cmavo la xu
> >
> > But I was curious as to whether the 'du' cmavo could be used as a selbri.
>
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