[lojban-beginners] Re: mi'e cmalu tcatipax noi tordu je plana

[der Mouse <mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA>]

Let's see how close I can come to this.  I'll probably make plenty of
mistakes, but that's how we learn, right?

> mi'e cmalu tcatipax

self-introduction small-kind-of-(tea-kind-of-pot)

(okay, it's fairly clear what the rest of it will mean without even
bothering to look at it :), but to continue...)

> noi tordu je plana

which-is something-which-is-short afterthought-and
  something-which-is-plump

> i ti pemi veljai

I'm not sure whether this is

this-here which-is me is-that-at-which-something-is-grasped

or

this-here which-is that-which-grasps-at-locus-me

though neither one is what is clearly intended.  Is "i ti veljai mi"
more nearly correct?  Does this call for a construct with ke'a?  Or am
I just plain confused?

> i ti pemi tubnu

Similar remarks apply here; it seems to be saying either

this-here which-is me is-a-tube

or

this-here which-is the-material-of-which-I-am-a-tube

and it looks to me as though "i ti tubnu pe mi" is closer.

> i fau jaurgapci

And in-the-envent-of water-vapour is clearly what this is intended to
be.  But wouldn't that be jaugapci?

> tirna lo siclu

is-heard that-which-really-is that-which-whistles

> i ko carna je rinci mi

and make-it-so-that something-is-turned afterthought-and something
drains from-me

Here, the ko is clearly intended to apply to the whole of the next four
words, not just the part before je; is that how je works?  If so, how
would you say "make this relation true - oh, and, this other relation
is true"?

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