[lojban-beginners] z and s? Re: Re: first question - Lojban c and j - what's the difference?

[<lojban@shindra.com>]

Thank you, that was a very good answer. Now the problem turns into the fact that I could never tell the difference between z and s :( this is where the vocal cords vs. friction should help me, but I guess I'm just not good at this :( does anyone have an idea of how I might be able to understand this? thanks
- Shindra

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The "j" sound, ZH, is voiced and the "c" sound, SH, is not. The difference is the same as the difference between S and Z. Or between F and V. Your vocal cords move with ZH, Z or V but with SH, S or F the sound is just the friction of blown air.
- epkat


lojban-beginners@chain.digitalkingdom.org wrote:
>In the "Lojban For Beginners" lessons, about consonants, it says that 
>"
>c: sh, as in SHip
>j: as in meaSure or French bonJour
>"
>but I can't hear/see/think/percieve the difference
>help, please?
>
>- Shindra
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