[1] "You are a German person." {do dotco prenu} [2] "You are the first German person I ever met." {do dotco prenu [???]} {poi} cannot be used here, because {dotco prenu} isn't a sumti. {du} seems a bit over-mathematical, and has an ill fame as malglico. What is the most elegant way to translate [2] to Lojban, then? Or there isn't? mi'e .ianis.