[lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down

No, pieere is right.. Fro the Grammar, 3.9:

Most Lojban words are stressed on the next-to-the-last, or penultimate, syllable. In counting syllables, however, syllables whose vowel is ``y'' or which contain a syllabic consonant (``l'', ``m'', ``n'', or ``r'') are never counted. (The Lojban term for penultimate stress is ``da'amoi terbasna''.) Similarly, syllables created solely by adding a buffer vowel, such as [I], are not counted.

And yes, I did realize after I read my own message that I meant to say “only y”, but I didn’t think it important enough to correct.

gejyspa

From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Theodore Reed
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:46 PM
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: the Princess puts her foot down

On 1/24/07, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

Then there are syllabic consonants, which are important for determining
whether a word is pronounceable, but have no effect on placing the
stress. "bakrto" (an ungulate of uncertain identity mentioned in Leviticus
11) could be "BA,kr,to" or "BAK,rt,o", and "cinkytoltri" is stressed on "to"
no matter how many syllables you make of "ltr".

This seems a little wrong. I believe the stress needs to fall on the r in that case, whether it's grouped with the k or the t. Anyone with additional information on this?

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Theodore Reed (treed/bancus)
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