la .pier.abat. cu cusku di'e > No, a stage 4 fu'ivla may not have form CVCCV or CCVCV So something like {pitsa} or {salsa} is not a stage-4 fu'ivla but, if anything, an experimental gismu? What about {.iglu} - (experimental) gismu or fu'ivla? mu'o mi'e .filip.