Yes it could be. But remember, (and
this was always a hard concept for me to grasp) that unlike tanru, a "lujvo,
like other brivla, have a fixed place structure and a single meaning,
encapsulating a commonly-used tanru into a lujvo relieves the listener of the
burden of creative understanding" (12.1, second paragraph after example
1.2). In other words, once something is in a lujvo, it has only one meaning.
That meaning is determined by the lujvo creator. So, you COULD have meant it
to mean a "dog that houses fleas", but since the example we are
creating is specifically not intended to convey that, we have already constrained
what the relationship between the parts will be, and hence the place structure.
--gejyspa
From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org
[mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:49
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To: lojban-beginners
Subject: [lojban-beginners] lujvo
Reference Grammar Ch.12, Sect.3:
In fact, the relationship will almost always be so close that the predicate
expressing r will be either the seltau or the tertau predicate itself. This
should come as no surprise, given that a word like ``zdani'' in Lojban is a
predicate. Predicates express relations; so when you're looking for a relation
to tie together ``le zdani'' and ``le gerku'', the most obvious relation to
pick is the very relation named by the tertau, ``zdani'': the relation between
a home and its dweller. As a result, the object which fills the first place of
``gerku'' (the dog) also fills the second place of ``zdani'' (the
house-dweller).
I don't understand the last part. Why not the first place of "zdani"
(the house)? The text previously validates such one of the possible meanings of
the veljvo (gerku zdani) as " dogs which are also houses (e.g. houses for
fleas)", in which the object filling the first place of "gerku"
also fills the first place of "zdani".
mu'o mi'e vid