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[lojban-beginners] Re: lujvo



On 6/18/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:

[...] unlike tanru, a "lujvo, like other brivla, have a fixed place structure and a single meaning, encapsulating a commonly-used tanru into a lujvo relieves the listener of the burden of creative understanding" (12.1, second paragraph after example 1.2).  In other words, once something is in a lujvo, it has only one meaning.  That meaning is determined by the lujvo creator.  So, you COULD have meant it to mean a "dog that houses fleas", but since the example we are creating is specifically not intended to convey that, we have already constrained what the relationship between the parts will be, and hence the place structure.


What is puzzling me is the part "As a result...". What result? It's saying as a matter of course that, if there's no particular purpose set by the creator, the object which fills the first place of "gerku" automatically fills the second, not first, place of "zdani". That's odd. What overlaps at the x1 of the combination "gerku" & "zdani" in the most unaffected/natural way (prior to the creator's intention to specify/determine the place structure as that which is of the most useful/common) should really be the x1 of "gerku" & the x1 of "zdani", shouldn't it?

   --vid