[lojban-beginners] Re: vowel length

["Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com>]

  You state that you don't want the learner to be confused...well, maybe
WHILE in your class, but the moment they step out of it, they will be
puzzled by the variety of accents they hear, if what you assert is true.
By saying, in effect, "there is only one way to pronounce things" you
are sending a false message.  Far better to let them hear a variety of
different ways that are not lojbanically phonemically-differentiating,
in my opinion.  If your method applied to someone learning English, how
would someone who learned Bostonian say,  ever hope to understand
someone from Texas, Pennsylvania, Austrailia, Liverpool, Mumbai, South
Africa, or Canada who all speak very different varieties of sounds for
the same letters?

               --gejyspa


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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vowel length

Selon Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>:

> When you make a new recording of a different word with the same vowel,
> make it a different length than the length you gave that vowel before.
> If you keep mixing it up so that you never have consistency in one
> length for a vowel, the learners will not be taught that vowel is
> supposed to have any particular length.

Or some learners may get confused...
I'd like to avoid confusion as far as possible.

It's technically easier for me (and also better from a
pedagogical point of view, I think) to stick to
one pronunciation. This way the learner won't be
confused and he won't learn anything wrong either.

Remember it's a beginners' course!

Martin