[lojban-beginners] Re: anti-Zipfian gismu rant

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 8/10/07, Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
>
> 1.  There are other kinds of modification besides "type of"
>
> 2. The place structure may be the same, but arguably the semantics may
> be different.
>
> Two examples from the book:
> kosta degji - coat-finger -> sleeve of a coat
> and any use of degji to metaphorically indicate a peninsula.

Are you saying that:

   le vi kosta cu dukse clani lo ka degji
   la floridas cu degji le mergu'e

are incorrect uses of {degji}? If they are proper uses of {degji}, then
{tumla degji} and {kosta degji} both are types of {degji}.

> It is a finger only as a metaphorical stretch.  You may be able to fill
> in a meaningful place for each of the places of degji, but it is a
> strain to use this as a tanru.

More of a strain than using it as a simple selbri? If not, then
tanru has nothing to do with it. Metaphors don't need to be
tanru and tanru don't need to be metaphors (the conflation
of "tanru" with "metaphor" is another case of Lojbanic mixed-up
terminology).

> cifnu-degji - baby finger
> This is a kind of finger.  But it has nothing to do with babies.  It is
> using a metaphorical aspect of a baby as the meaning modifier.

Which is not really relevant to whether a broda brode has to be
a brode.

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