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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo do ckiku ma zvati

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:06:25PM -0700, Lindar wrote:
> It's been proven through a lot of teaching that terminators are
> easier to learn when {cu} is introduced later, and for 90% of
> examples, one doesn't even need it unless an abstraction is in the
> x1 place.

Please don't use "proven" unless you have actual evidence.  I see
assertions with nothing to back them up, from you and everyone else
in this thread (including me, although I'll be happy to give you a
list of people who can hold a comfortable verbal convo in Lojban and
learned the opposite way if you like).

> In fact, most of the new generation -does- speak that way 

Who would these people be, and how good are they?

> Besides, even if we -are- talking about brevity, it's the same
> thing. There's no difference in length between {.i lo broda ku
> brode} and {.i lo broda cu brode}, 

It's the longer cases I'm worried about; poi and nu and such.

> but the former develops better habits later on.

I *utterly* disagree with that bit.  It encourages people to say
things like {le nu broda kei ku brode}, which I consider a very bad
habit indeed.

Now, having said that, people have been suggesting in IRC that
thinking of sumti as bound on both sides (by le and ku) leads to a
better understanding of where to put the terminators when they're
actually needed, which is certainly interesting.

-Robin

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