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Re: [lojban] tu'o usage



In a message dated 9/19/2002 9:39:55 AM Central Daylight Time, nessus@free.fr writes:

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err,  but then I can use {pa broda} which the book says is syntactically
the same as {lo pa broda}, and get only one marker

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The book had better say {pa broda} is the same as {pa lo broda}, NOT {lo pa broda}.

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I agree that in this case, all these amount to the same thing, but:
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Yes, there are often practical reasons for using one rather than the other (never for {tu'o} so far as I can tell).  I was just talking about the truth conditions.

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There is a difference between claiming something and implying something.
This shows up, for example, if the whole sentence is negated.
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Does this mean that {tu'o broda cu brode} and {tu'o broda na brode} both imply that there is only one broda, while {pa broda cu brode} does and {pa broda na brode} does not.  That, if true, would be a reason for using {tu'o}.  I can't think of any reason to think it is true in Lojban (but then, I have no idea what {tu'o} means in Lojban).

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