RE: [lojban] Digest Number 1752

["And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>]

Nick:
> >    From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@lycos.co.uk>
> >Jordan:
> >>  > cmavo is not a syntactic class, it is a morphological class
> >>
> >>  It is also a class of syntactic classes. 
> >
> >It doesn't strike me as a natural class of syntactic classes, since
> >the only thing that those syntactic classes have in common is that
> >they all have the morphological property of being expressed by
> >cmavo 
> 
> .... and that they are function words and not content words. Whose 
> syntax may  be disparate, sure, but has in common that it is not the 
> syntax of predicates 

Not-being-a-brivla is not sufficient to justify grouping cmavo
together as a valid syntactic taxon. It's not an important issue
for Lojban's design or prescription, but if we ever come to write
a descriptive grammar of Lojban, that's what I'd be arguing.

> >Message: 12
> >    Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 11:08:36 -0400
> >    From: Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org>
> Bob, I've long ago given up expecting any language work of you. When 
> I say "you", I am addressing fundamentalists in general 

I'm not sure that's fair. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that
some fundamentalists are pretty industrious, especially those with
names beginning with J.

> >A few words like
> >mango, pitsa or taksi have a special status in that they are international
> >_and_ are already gismu-form without any need of adaptation. It is hard
> >to resist those, since they don't even need a dictionary definition in order
> >to be understood. I'm sure those will end up as part of the language in
> >any case 
> 
> You underestimate the power of fundamentalism. :-)

I expect they'll become a kind of slang -- the lojbo "ain't", as Michael
said of "ka'enai". Used, but fiercely deprecated.

--And.

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