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Re: [lojban] Re: My parser, SI, SA, and ZOI



On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:37:18PM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote:
> --- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > My parser handles it exactly the same way in "mi broda lo zei zei
> > da" and "mi broda zei zei da".
> 
> How come those are not "mi broda lo-zei-zei da" and "mi broda-zei-zei
> da"? 

Prioritization.  ZEI clauses are actually fairly far down the tanru-unit
list in the BNF, which is what I started with.

> > "zei bu" you seem to be correct on, and that follows from their
> > relative priorities.  I've just told BU to not work on ZEI, ever, to
> > avoid that special case.
> 
> When you have "zei zei" you have to decide which one acts as glue and
> which one as lujvo component. Why would you take the second one as
> glue?

See above.  This may not be the 'right' thing, of course.

> > > When zo fights with these words directly, it always wins: {zo si},
> > > {zo bu}, {zo zei}, so I don't see any reason for it not to win
> > > when it fights with them over a third word. If {zo da} can be a
> > > single word for {bu} and for {zei} to grab, 
> > 
> > Is that exactly the question that we're discussing?  As far as I can
> > tell, zo da is *never* considered a single word.
> 
> In the current grammar, that's correct.
> 
> > The official parser doesn't accept "zo da bu", nor "zo da zei
> > broda", so I'm not sure where you get the idea that "{zo da} can be
> > a single word for {bu} and for {zei} to grab" ?
> 
> If "da zei de" can be a single word for bu, why can't "zo da" be a
> single word for bu?

As I haven't the slightest idea why ZEI was handled in a way different
from every other preprocessor token, I don't have a good answer for
that.

> Do you prefer to leave {zo a bu} as broken instead of giving it one of
> the two obvious possible meanings? 

Not particularily.

-Robin

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