Re: [lojban] Re: Again {xorlo} and Wiki.

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 6/16/05, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> --- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't think {pa lo cribe} contains any
> > implicit "in the world",
> > but it certainly differs from {lo pa cribe}.
> > For example:
> 
> In the universe then? (using "universe" in the
> technical sense?) 

I prefer "universe of discourse". "Universe" by itself
usually ends up being interpreted as the physical 
universe.

> I think that this expression
> ought not be true if there are no bears in
> whatever is the relevant domain.

I don't think it is possible to talk about bears and
at the same time keep them outside of the relevant
domain. If you mention bears, then automatically 
there are bears in the relevant domain, i.e. there are
bears in the discourse. Even to say {no cribe cu nenri
le vi kumfa} "there are no bears in this room" I have 
to bring bears into the discourse.

mu'o mi'e xorxes