In a message dated 6/10/2001 5:46:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
xod@sixgirls.org writes: I don't see the need for "Presupposing the attached bridi is true" for This is the foundation of the original discussion -- thtat some attitudinals affect truth value and some do not. That way of putting it turned out to mean that some presupposed (in the technical sense: the sentence was atleast pragmatically defective if the presupposition was not met) that the bridi was true and, indeed, in practice the whole sentence asserted it, while other did not presuppose this and were directed toward its becoming true or towards its truth in some idealized world. I could not well skip over that, but this was befoe the new pattern -- which has not yet emerged to the point where Ican see what it is based one and whether it has any connection with this older one.
Emotion presumably attaches not to bridi at all but to the situations the bridi describe. And within that situation they may focus on one aspect rather than another and thus be expressed by vocable attached to words for that aspect. But they may also be unfocused, attaching to the whole situation and so best expressed attached to the whole bridi. <This new approach is so beautiful and simple that I think I shall adopt it, regardless that it violates the Book in some cases.> I expect that we will all be using attitudinals in ways that violate the book (indeed, any consistent use will violate some part of chapter 13), but I can't recommend the system being touted until I understand what it says better, and I fear that may amount to saying "until I see how it fits into familiar frameworks," like the one I presented or, some general discussion of particular cases of emotion or precation or whatever. |