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Re: [lojban] Retraction, Part 1
Nick NICHOLAS wrote:
Are you now saying that the "le ninmu" = "lo nanmu" (transvestite) example
is inapplicable? Or are you saying that given enough context, a
transvestite conventionally described as "le ninmu" can also be seen as
"lo ninmu"?
The latter, I think. A TV may not be a prototypical woman, but s/he
may be just within the fuzzy ninmu orbital. If we are talking about
socially assigned responses to gender, "lo ninmu" may be just the
thing.
... On the other hand, I now see in the refgramm that "le" is defined as
+definite -veridical, and not as I remembered it, +/-definite -veridical.
"le" is +specific -veridical. Definiteness is more or less managed
by "bi'u". Where does the refgram say that "le" is +definite?
So that I understand this, there is a real possibility that it will take
years rather than months for the content of the lessons to be reviewed and
finalised. Yes?
Alas, it is not inconceivable. In a sense, there is no point in
officially freezing them until we can afford to print-publish
them.
This means in the general case that {ka} is not an intension --- a
property *of* something, ellipsed or not ---
I don't follow this.
The Refgramm says "mi djuno lenu la frank. cu bebna" is
'not quite right',
On your recommendation, as it happens. (This is not a criticism.)
Philosophical disagreement. John, I hate to put you on the spot, but you
have yourself acceeded to using the word 'errata'. Should any emendation
to the refgramm treatment of {ka} be left to usage and informal, or
written up and formalised? I think I know what the answer is, though...
I have written it up on the wiki, and I believe that I was in error.
Whether the *book* is in error is a matter of definitions; I would
certainly say that it was. Chapter 1 notes the possibility of
"corrections of outright errors", though rather less subtle
errors were certainly what was expected.
If I document the standard, the standard is inconsistent (but leans
towards the latter.)
IMAO when the Book contradicts itself, the Book is in error,
period.
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