Re: [lojban] Re: semantic primes can define anything

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 3/28/06, John E Clifford <clifford-j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> So the difference between {krici} and {jinvi} is
> the evidence place?

As far as I can tell, that's the only difference, yes.

>  Having the opinion is not
> extramental but to be an opinion it must involve
> reference to an extramental situation (except, of
> course, opinions about mental situations).

If you except the cases when it need not, then yes, it must. :)

> > {pensi} lacks the belief component of {jinvi},
> > so you would need some other way to get that in, either
> > {jinvi} or {krici} or something else.
>
> The belief component is what I called
> affirmation, I think.  Yes, that has to be added,
> like the truth component to get {djuno} --
> actually that requires both.

I wonder how NSM paraphrases "X believes Y" (perhaps
"X thinks that Y is true"?) and once it gets that, why it can't
also get a suitable paraphrase for KNOW (something like
"Y is true and X thinks that Y is true" and probably a couple
more things?).

mu'o mi'e xorxes