Re: [lojban] Re: "la" in names

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:06:37AM +0300, Yanis Batura wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
> To: lojban-list@lojban.org
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:50:04 -0800
> Subject: [lojban] Re: "la" in names
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 07:34:08AM +0300, Yanis Batura wrote:
> > > I am absolutely sure that a native Lojban speaker will have
> > > the rule comfortly sitting in his/her brain. I am absolutely
> > > sure that given a good special training we will all
> > > internalize this rule.
> > 
> > I utterly disagree.  More to the point, there is *no evidence*
> > for your view, and lots for mine.
> 
> I see your point. In the 19th century, people didn't fly on
> airplanes. Now they do.

Straw man, and wrong: the existence of birds was evidence.  You have
none at all.

> > > > A rule we can't follow that, in the not-following, breaks
> > > > audio-visual isomorphism is, to me, a total travesty of one
> > > > of the most important goals of the language.  Whether
> > > > someone gets to use the "la" sound in their name or not is
> > > > totally irrelevant to my concerns.  We're *breaking the
> > > > language*, and it has to stop.
> > > 
> > > Your suggestions? (sorry if I missed something back from 2005
> > > :)
> > 
> > Pauses before all names.
> > 
> > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=The%20Case%20Against%20LA
> 
> This suggestion is reasonable, but it has two disadvantages:
> 
> 1) {la.} is longer and a bit harder to pronounce than {la} if used
> with consonant-starting names.

Boo hoo.

> 2) You'll have to change the language.

The language as it stands is demonstrably broken; all you have to do
is turn to page iii of "What Is Lojban?" to see that.

-Robin

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