On 8 Nov, 2006, at 22:24, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 08:36:16PM -0500, Robert McIvor wrote:I might note that Loglan removed the restriction on names beginning with La, or any other letter group that could precede a bare name (e.g. Hoi (which precedes a vocative) ci (hyphen, for reasons which follow)) by introducing the following rules. Such a name used as as a vocative must be preceded by 'hoi' , or 'la' when used in an argument.By "such a name" I'm assuming you mean a name with 'hoi' or 'la' in it. That doesn't help, because the whole problem has been that *people don't notice*. People use names with "la" all the time without noticing that they are special.
I said "such a name" because JCB would not accept 'hoi' (Lojban 'doi'?) befpre all cmene used as vocatives. You will note that the rules I mentioned could be applied to all cmene without ambiguity and would permit omission of the pause before cmene
iin all instances.I mention this only as information as to what another group with the same problem has done. If I recall correctly, it did not require any change to the existing grammar.
(making bare cmene ungrammatical would have involved a change, however) Bob McIvor
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