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Re: [lojban] Re: Duty, promice etc...
coi xorxes
Since promises, requests and orders are events (albeit unrealized ones),
they can be referred to in Lojban with {lo nu ...}: {lo nu mi ba dunda
lo relselxi'u do}, {lo nu lo smuci cu nenri lo re moi dacru}. And we can also,
of course, refer to these unrealized events by other descriptions {lo se nupre},
{lo se cpedu}, {lo se minde}, etc.
I opine that "being an unrealized event" is event about event: {lo nu
broda be lo nu brode}, where {lo nu brode} is event
promised/requested/ordered and {lo nu broda} is the state of its
unrealizedness.The good example of such {lo nu broda} is {lo nu
bilga}. In fact {lo nu bilga} is a very general kind of unrealizedness
(like "nu" is very general kind of event) - whether you have promise,
request or order, you are in some or other way obliged to do so. I
opine the event of promising, requesting and commanding ( {lo nu
nupre}, {lo nu cpedu} and {lo nu minde}) are good for x3 of {bilga}.
So, "I am bound by a promise" is {mi bilga lo nu mi brode lo nu mi
nupre}. Because it is (or should be) a very common pattern, I suggest
a series of lujvo in form {nupybilga} whith following place stucture:
x1 = nupre1 = bilga1 "who is promised and therefore obliged", x2 =
nupre2 = bilga2 "what is promiced and therefore obliged"; bilga3 =
{le nu nupre} and omitteded from lujvo place structure, x3 = nupre3
"beneficiary/victim of a promise".
... noi se gusni fi le solri poi se cmene lu sa'u tarci li'u ...
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Cyril Slobin <lj user="slobin">