Re: [lojban] Re: Beyond Whorf: "things," "qualities," and the origin of nouns and adjectives

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la ivAn cusku di'e

> Let
> us count them: (1) `beauty', the abstract quality (cf. Chinese);

le ka melbi

> (2) `the beautiful' as an abstract concept (similar to the first,
> but perhaps not the same);

lo'e melbi
(In the sense of archetype, not average, of course.)

> (3) `beautiful thing' (any sort of thing,
> not necessarily physical), the vanilla meaning of {lo melbi};

Yes.

> (4) `beautiful (young) woman' (metaphorically extendable).

{le melbi}, with appropriate context.

> Can (2) also be called {lo melbi}, you ask?  Well, X is {lo melbi}
> iff {X melbi}.  Is `the beautiful (in our life)' itself beautiful?

Sometimes. Sometimes {lo'e tolmelbi} can be beautiful too.

co'o mi'e xorxes


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