Hi In what sense does talca mean challenge? How would I say "he challenged him to a duel" How does the "duel" become x3, a property? Apart from defy, challenge could also mean "hindered" (horizontally challenged ;-) or "confronted" Greg -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke .i lo'e to'e makcu cu djica lenu tolcumla morsi kei lo telda'a .i lo'e je'a makcu cu go'i to'ebo le se go'i