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Fwd: Request for help

I'm putting this question to the list, partly to let people know of something interesting being done with Lojban, and partly to get other people to contribute to the response. Bear in mind the context of what they are trying to convey with non-visual cues, in choosing the appropriate Lojban phrasing. 

I will relay the best response(s).

lojbab


From: "Kaizen ESL Program" <kaizen_esl@literacynet.org>
To: <lojban@lojban.org>
Subject: Request for help
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:42:09 -0700

Dear Mr. LeChevalier,

My colleague, Sylvie Kashdan, was in touch with you earlier this year about
the use of Lojban to demonstrate some of the problems of new English
learners.  We specialize in teaching English as a second language to people
who are blind or visually impaired.  We also train volunteer tutors in this
area.

For our teaching and training we use objects and hands-on demonstrations in
place of the visual cues, such as pictures and gestures, that are central to
mainstream instruction.  In our workshops we have effectively used basic
lojban sentences to give tutor trainees a sense of the situation faced by
new English learners with visual limitations.

We have been asked to do a presentation at a national symposium in Atlanta
on September 20.  We plan to devote part of our time to an interactive
demonstration of our use of lojban, for which I would like to include a few
new phrases the translations of which I have not been able to figure out.  I
consulted the draft dictionary on the official lojban web site but was
unable to find an appropriate match.

I would be grateful if you could help me to understand and translate the
simple motions of moving one's hand forward and moving it back.  I know that
hand is xance, but could not find a verb-like structure for 'move.'  For
forward (the closest I come is crane (cra)), but don't trust my
interpretation.  For back(ward) the closest I come is se'ixru, again not
very sure.

I will appreciate any help you can give me with these words/phrases, and it
will definitely add to the interest and effectiveness of our presentation.

Yours sincerely,

Robby Barnes

KAIZEN PROGRAM for New English Learners with Visual Limitations
810-A Hiawatha Place South
Seattle, WA  98144
phone:  (206) 784-5619
e-mail:  kaizen_esl@literacynet.org


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