Re: [lojban] tunlo

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la pycyn cusku di'e

> <<
> > The full list of basic actions seem to be: cisma, cmila, frumu,
> > senci, tunlo (smile, laugh, frown, sneeze, swallow). Can you
> > elaborate on the range that they can cover?
> >>
> And {bikla} "whip".

How does one "whip"? I considered adding that one, but I wouldn't
know how to whip. I think I used {bikla} a couple of times, but
only as a modifier, and basically meaning {suksa}. What is the
basic action that is covered by {bikla}?

> The most of these are facial in a broad sense, but the
> original "philosophical" idea was much more about gross bodily movements,
> muscle contractions at various points in the voluntary sets -- more like
> {bikla} in fact, but harder in general to find good words for.

So the odd tunlo place structure is a remnant of a discarded
theory?

> "kick, blink,
> step (just lifting the foot, not the whole process), bend, straighten" are
> some relatively easy cases;

{binxo lo korcu} and {binxo lo tolkorcu} for "bend" and "straighten".
"kick" would be {tikpa zi'o zi'o}, is that what you mean? and similarly
for "step" {stapa zi'o}. What would "blink" be?

> harder ones are flexing a finger, raising a knee,
> and so on: the muscle components of all meaningful actions -- that is, the
> pieces deprived of meaning.

{krogau lo degji}, {lafti lo cidni}, they seem easier than "blink".

> <<
> What are all the cases?
> >>
> I don't supppose there is a complete list; it is pretty open-ended.  I 
> don't
> remember what other cases were considered and rejected or what ignored or
> discovered too late.  There were a few of the first sort and more of the
> later.

I'm not sure I understand the principle involved.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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