On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:18:43PM +0200, Adam Raizen wrote: > de'i li 2002-11-07 ti'u li 16:34:00 la'o zoi. Robin Lee Powell .zoi cusku di'e > >Since ro is in PA, this obviously applies. I don't see that there's anything > >to argue about. > > Close, but this doesn't necessarily imply that 'PA broda' is equivalent to > 'PA lo broda'. As I noted on jboske, ch. 8 sec. 6 says "so-called indefinite > sumti like ``re karce'' [..] [mean] almost the same as ``re lo karce''". I'm > not sure whether "almost the same" was just caution John's part, in case they > turn out to be different, or whether he was maybe referring to some esoteric > difference, such as the fact that 're karce' can only have a relative clause > after the 'ku', whereas 're lo karce' can have it both before and after, or > whether there was really supposed to be some small difference. "By a quirk of Lojban syntax, it is possible to omit the descriptor ``lo'', but never any other descriptor.... is equivalent in meaning..." Chap6, section 8 says it straight out, with examples. I didn't know chap8 section 6 also reinforced the issue ;) A good point about the ku being a difference though. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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