[lojban] Re: Parasite

["Gregory Dyke" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

cu'u la sanxiyn

> G. Dyke wrote:
>
> > I don't so much object to ji'etcu being definded as "parasite" --
> > although I can[sic] think of better alternatives - as to Bob's
> -- Isn't it "can't"? If not, suggest one!

pavyfartcu
nalcajytcu

> > unwarranted enthusiasm faced with a Korean calque as opposed to the
> > English calques we see so often.
>
> I agree that {jmive} is not "saeng" as in "gisaeng", and use of the
> same word for both concept of "alive" and "organic" is culture-centric,
> metaphorical, therefore maybe non-lojbanic.

No, I don't think it's culture-centric. It's just that something can still
be organic after death. Which is jmive to be? alive or organic. I vote
organic, since we already have tolmorsi for alive.

> But don't call it "Korean calque"! It's rather "CJK calque", since
> anyone from Chinese, Japanese, Korean, i.e. Han-Ideographic culture
> will recognize it.

my bad, and I suppose my tone appeared rather negative.

 You are right in that if "English calque" is bad,
> "CJK calque" is equally bad, but I should point out that it is not
> worse, since CJK population is not smaller than English population.

I'd never suggested any idea of worse or better. But the quality of an idea
is not reflected by the number of people who accept it...

mu'o mi'e greg