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[lojban] Re: "Tintin - L'Ile Noire" in Lojban, next step. I need your help!
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 18:12, Jorge "Llambías" wrote:
> Some comments about my translation of the page from Tintin:
> > 1.
> > la tintin: do mi tavla le mo danlu i xu le malda'u pe la loxnes
>
> Is {le malda'u pe la loxnes} good for "the Loch Ness Monster"?
I think {malda'u} is "beast" rather than "monster". How about {cizda'u}?
> > le skoto: ko na cisma doi citno i mi do tavla le danlu poi xabju
> > bu'u la xekri daplu le fesydi'u be le balzda be la benmor
> > i dy citka ro da poi dusydarsi lo nu klama xydy
>
> Is {besydi'u} a good lujvo for "x1 are the ruins of x2"?
> And {balzda} for "x1 is the castle of x2"?
{besydi'u} I'm not sure what is. A building which is owned by a son?
{fesydi'u} could mean "a building where waste is stored"; I'm not sure which
meaning is more useful, or more common. {balzda} pe'i is "palace" or
"mansion"; I'd use {badzda} for "castle".
> > 2.
> > le skoto: i mu'a pu za lo masti be li ci mu'inai ro se stidi be mi'a
> > le re citno cu jdice lo du'u klama xydy i cy klama fu lo
> > bloti i le xamsi cu cando i lo kantu ji'asai na brife i
> > sa'u baku noroi tirna lo nuzba be cy i ca le purlamna'a
> > le fipkalte pe la kiltox cu canci
>
> Is {lo kantu ji'asai na brife} understandable?
I think so, though it sounds like an idiom to me. lo kantu be lo brife is a
phonon, as is lo kantu be lo sance, which is much smaller than one can
perceive.
> > 4.
> > le skoto: i oi selterpa danlu i su'oroiku ca lo vanci ca lo nu brife
> > le darno xamsi cu tirna lo nu dy ... i a'e ko tirna
>
> Here we have an incomplete sentence, as the speaker interrupts himself,
> which won't parse. Is that a problem?
I don't see a problem, as speakers interrupting themselves often produce
sentences that don't parse in natlangs as well. He could add {su}, but I
don't think he would think "that doesn't parse, I have to erase it".
> > 6.
> > le barpre: ti vanci sanmi doi do'u
>
> What's a good vocative for "Sir"? {doi prenu}? {doi nobli}? {doi do io}?
> {doi do ga'inai}? Is {doi do'u} better than {doi do}?
>
> > 8.
> > le remoi nanmu: ue xu bevri do la xekri daplu i na go'i va'o ji'asai lo
> > nu pleji ro solji pe le munje i mi prami lo nu jmive doi citno
>
> Is the second sentence understandable?
Seems so to me.
> > 10.
> > la tintin: ua
>
> This should have been {la tintin: ua tu mi cuntu}
>
> Is {ua} good for the French "sapristi!" here?
> What about "voilà mon affaire..."?
>
> > 11.
> > la tintin: ju'i i xu do zanru lo nu zasyve'u le bloti mi
> > le vomoi nanmu: go'i i ku'i xu do se slabu lo nu sazri by ta'i makau
>
> How do we say "at least", as in "do you know at least how it works"?
{po'ocu'i}?
> > 14.
> > la tintin: uo
>
> Is that "Et voilà!"?
That's part of it, but I'm not sure how to say the rest, which is "I show
you".
phma
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