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[lojban] Re: mimiklama
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:55:28AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> On 17 Mar 2004 at 23:57, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
>
> > jbofi'e successfully parses "mimiklama" as "mi mi klama".
>
> Rather than, say, what?
Failing completely.
> > I'm guessing that that's not *really* OK; any opinions?
>
> I thought you could add any number of cmavo to the beginning of any
> brivla since the beginning of the brivla was unambiguously defined by
> the consonant cluster? So for me {mimiklama} = {mi mi klama} (and
> {mimikla} would be {mi mikla} with an unknown gismu *mikla).
OK, what about 'mimibilga'? Obviously 'mimibIlga' is handleable, but
without the stress indicated? It's the lack of stress indicators that
I'm really asking about.
> And otherwise tosmabru-words wouldn't exist, unless I'm
> misunderstanding something.
<nod> I guess what I'm asking is "in absence of stress indicators, does
tosmabru still happen?". What about "miklamami"?
> > Is it reasonable to have a rule that says that a cmavo can be
> > followed by spaces, another cmavo, or a consonant cluster?
>
> Currently, what follows doesn't have to be a cluster as long as a
> cluster follows "soon" after - e.g. {mijimpe} is {mi jimpe} even
> though the cluster "mp" isn't immediately after "mi".
Even without the stress?
> Are you proposing to change this so that {mijimpe} is now unparseable
> or a fu'ivla?
Absolutely not! I'm just trying to understand.
-Robin
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