[lojban] "herd" and such?

[Robin Lee Powell <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

We've passed my level of expertise.  Help, please.

-Robin

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From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar>
To: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>

--- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

> > What selbri would you use with ni'e? Something meaning "x1 is a herd
> > of x2"? 
> 
> li ni'e bakni cu klama, IIRC.  It's in the red book somewhere.

I can't find it. All I can find wrt to ni'e is:

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The cmavo ``ni'e'' makes a selbri into an operand. The x1 place 
of the selbri generally represents a number, and therefore is 
often a ``ni'' abstraction, since ``ni'' abstractions represent 
numbers. The ``ni'e'' makes that number available as a mekso 
operand. A common application is to make equations relating 
pure dimensions:


18.2)    li ni'e ni clani [te'u] pi'i
        ni'e ni ganra [te'u] pi'i
        ni'e ni condi te'u
        du li ni'e ni canlu
    the-number quantity-of length times
        quantity-of width times
        quantity-of depth
        equals the-number quantity-of volume.
    Length ? Width ? Depth = Volume
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which wouldn't seem to be the same thing, since cows 
are not numbers.

Is {li ni'e bakni cu klama} meant to be the same as
{lo bakni cu klama}? How does {ni'e} introduce the 
notion of "herd"? Is {li ni'e broda} in general
a collective of broda? 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

		
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