[lojban] Re: The Lojban Wikipedia is up

[Robin Lee Powell <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 02:20:15PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 August 2004 12:29, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 12:44:09AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> > > For instance, I just made up the word {jicyjutsi'o}, added it to
> > > jbovlaste, and used it in [[finpe]] on Wikipedia. Hopefully
> > > someone will write an article on it, which will explain it better
> > > than the definition. (I'm not a cladist, so I'm probably not the
> > > one to write the article.)
> >
> > That reminds me: I discovered that jimca isn't the best word for
> > that sort of thing.  I was working on a word for "hierarchy" or
> > "tree" (computer science sense).  First version was jicyci'e, but
> > then I discovered vipsi.
> >
> > Talk about a word that doesn't get enough usage.
> >
> > vipsi does a *much* better job of expressing branching, hierachical
> > relationships than jimca, IMO.
> >
> > Also IMO, cladistics is jutyvipske, but I'm hardly an expert on the
> > topic.
> 
> I disagree. Cladistics is the idea that (using the example on the fish
> page) the lobe-finned fishes split into three branches: the
> coelacanths, the lungfish, and the tetrapods; and therefore any taxon
> containing the coelacanths and the lungfish must contain the tetrapods
> also. Both cladistic and phenetic taxonomy are hierarchical tree
> structures, but phenetic taxonomy has named hierarchical levels and
> can be done without assuming that branching occurred, whereas
> cladistics assumes branching and produces lots of clades with no
> taxonomic rank.

What does "branching" mean in this case?  IMO, it's a hierarchical
relationship in nature.  Perhaps something with both jimca and vipsu, or
with jicmu or, for that matter, farvi?  Yeah, maybe farvi is best.

-Robin

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